{"id":210668,"date":"2022-05-02T12:00:28","date_gmt":"2022-05-02T11:00:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/?p=210668"},"modified":"2022-05-02T04:02:33","modified_gmt":"2022-05-02T03:02:33","slug":"democracy-in-france-2022-conversation-with-sorbonne-constitutional-scholar-and-leftist-intellectual-marie-gren","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/2022\/05\/democracy-in-france-2022-conversation-with-sorbonne-constitutional-scholar-and-leftist-intellectual-marie-gren\/","title":{"rendered":"Democracy in France 2022: Conversation with Sorbonne Constitutional Scholar and Leftist Intellectual Marie Gren"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>29 Apr 2022 &#8211; <em>In the fascinating 60-minutes discussion, Professor Gren touched on various aspects of contemporary democracy in France, ranging from the sordid state of the Left and its \u201ccaviar socialists\u201d and the increasing acceptability and mainstreaming of Far Right ideologies which Le Pen personifies, to the economic hardships that inflict immense pains on the great majority of the French public.<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/France-the-rights-of-man-1300x650-1.jpg\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-210671\" src=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/France-the-rights-of-man-1300x650-1-1024x512.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"700\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/France-the-rights-of-man-1300x650-1-1024x512.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/France-the-rights-of-man-1300x650-1-300x150.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/France-the-rights-of-man-1300x650-1-768x384.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/France-the-rights-of-man-1300x650-1.jpg 1300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 700px) 100vw, 700px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<p>Professor Noam Chomsky, the renowned linguist and public intellectual, in his 20-minutes of remarks at the launch of FORSEA in Kuala Lumpur three years ago, offered a sobering overview of the history of what we call democratic struggles.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/rV2KFnsfYPk?t=578\" >In his words:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><em>It is also useful to remember that democracy has always been a highly contested concept. It\u2019s been feared and disdained among elites throughout the period of democratic revival in the world.\u00a0 That\u2019s been true, strikingly, in the great democratic revolutions.\u00a0 The first of these was in England in the mid-17th century, leading finally to what\u2019s called the Glorious Revolution of 1688<br \/>\n<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div id=\"attachment_7082\" class=\"wp-caption no-underline aligncenter\">\n<div id=\"attachment_210674\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen_in_1789-237x300-1.jpg\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-210674\" class=\"wp-image-210674\" src=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/05\/Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen_in_1789-237x300-1.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"380\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-210674\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The basic principles that the French Republic must respect are found in the 1789 Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen.<br \/>Wikipedia Commons<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>Building on that critical take on the struggles for democracy from below, this week\u2019s distinguished guest on our Dialogue on Democratic Struggles Series, <strong>Professor Marie Gren<\/strong> of the Pantheon-Sorbonne University in Paris, offered a feminist critique of the great democratic uprisings of 1789 \u2013 the French Revolution \u2013 which smashed the ancient feudal regime\u2019s stranglehold of power and wealth.<\/p>\n<p>She held up the example of Marie Gouze (1748-93) who dared to offered \u201cOlympe de Gouges, <em><a href=\"https:\/\/revolution.chnm.org\/d\/293\/\"  target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Declaration of the Rights of Woman<\/a>\u201c<\/em> (September 1791), in addition to or in place of the Declaration of the Right of Man.\u00a0 For her courageous display of gender equality she was condemned as a counterrevolutionary, denounced as an \u201cunnatural\u201d woman and was beheaded under the guillotine in 1793.<\/p>\n<p>So much for the Legacy of the (French) Enlightenment \u2013 and its revolutionary slogans of \u201cLibert\u00e9, Egalit\u00e9, Fraternit\u00e9\u201d.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_7076\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\">\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.diplomatie.gouv.fr\/en\/\" class=\"no-underline\"  target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7076 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot.jpg\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1340px) 100vw, 1340px\" srcset=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot.jpg 1340w, https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot-300x120.jpg 300w, https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot-1024x410.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot-768x307.jpg 768w, https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot-1300x520.jpg 1300w\" alt=\"\" width=\"1340\" height=\"536\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7076\" data-attachment-id=\"7076\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/democracy-in-france-2022-marie-gren\/france-dipomacy-website-screen-shot\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"1340,536\" data-comments-opened=\"0\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"France Dipomacy website screen shot\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot-300x120.jpg\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/04\/France-Dipomacy-website-screen-shot-1024x410.jpg\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-7076\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.diplomatie.gouv.fr\/en\/\" >https:\/\/www.diplomatie.gouv.fr\/en\/<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Professor Marie Gren, public and constitutional law scholar at the Pantheon-Sorbonne, focused her analysis of France\u2019s democratic struggle in the post-World War II period. She used the 7 important years as signifiers of important changes to the French democratic system, particularly state organs:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>1958 : a new constitution pushed through by (General) Charles De Gaulle during the Algerian crisis designed to skewer the system of checks and balances in his favour as the President vis-\u00e0-vis the legislature;<\/li>\n<li>1962, the introduction of the US-style direct election of the president in the French referendum;<\/li>\n<li>1971, the creation of a bill of rights by the Constitutional Council;<\/li>\n<li>1981; the election of the leftist Francois Mitterrand into Presidency who chose not to change the DeGaullian system with tremendous power to the Executive although he attacked the very system prior to his election;<\/li>\n<li>2000: the change of the presidential term from 7 to 5 years falsely framed as \u201cmore democratic but the actual outcome is more concentration of power in the hands of the President\u201d as it created the overlapping election cycles for both presidency and legislature (National Assembly), favouring the presidential race winner and his \u2013 yes, only HIS \u2013 party;<\/li>\n<li>2002: The far-right National Front reached the run-off in the presidential elections (established in the 1970\u2019s but, with ties to an older fascist movement: <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rassemblement_national#R%C3%B4le_fondateur_d\" Ordre_nouveau\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Rassemblement_national#R%C3%B4le_fondateur_d\u2019Ordre_nouveau<\/a>); and<\/li>\n<li>2017\/2022: the rise-and-rise of Marine Le Pen, the daughter of the former Far Right leader, whose prospects for capturing the presidency appears have significantly increased, with no real rival in French politics post-Macron, the second and last term President.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>In the fascinating 60-minutes discussion, Professor Gren touched on various aspects of contemporary democracy in France, ranging from the sordid state of the Left and its \u201ccaviar socialists\u201d and the increasing acceptability and mainstreaming of Far Right ideologies which Le Pen personifies to the economic hardships that inflict immense pains on the great majority of the French public, the popular rage and unpopularity of the incumbent President Macron, and the resultant and amorphous Yellow Vest protests that rocked France for months during the latter years of Macron\u2019s first term.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 14.0pt;\">httpv:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=zAOODyC8V9I<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Chillingly, despite the re-election victory by Macron, there are the French politicians who are even more to the right of Le Pen, which makes the 58-year French nationalist leader of the National Gathering party (renamed from the National Front) looks \u201cmoderate.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Quoting the leftist presidential candidate Jean-Luc M\u00e9lenchon who came 3rd after Macron and Le Pen, the French scholar characterized \u201cLe Pen as the politics of Macron with the racist approach and Macron, the politics of Le Pen with the classist approach.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She also addressed the complexities of what is considered \u201cthe French identity\u201d in the face of the growing presence of French Muslims with immigrant backgrounds, who make up Europe\u2019s largest concentration of Muslims.<\/p>\n<p>While the FORSEA guest said she shares the egalitarian values and ecological sensitivities of the socialist party candidate and Paris Mayor <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2021\/09\/02\/world\/europe\/france-president-election-socialists-anne-hidalgo.html\"  target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Anne Hidalgo<\/a>, Professor Gren is very critical of the ecologically driven policy approaches of the left candidates which force the great majority of working class French people to choose the Environment over their day-to-day economic survival.<\/p>\n<p>____________________________________<\/p>\n<p><em>More background reading:<\/em><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2022\/04\/06\/world\/europe\/france-presidential-election-far-right.html?action=click&amp;module=RelatedLinks&amp;pgtype=Article\" >Even Before France Votes, the French Right Is a Big Winner &#8211;\u00a0<\/a><em>\u201cThe dominance of right-wing ideas in France\u2019s presidential election campaign follows years of cultural wars waged successfully by conservatives on television, in social media and in think tanks.\u201d &#8211; <\/em>By Norimitsu Onishi and Constant M\u00e9heut, April 7, 2022<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2019\/05\/28\/opinion\/european-elections.html\"  target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The Far Right Is Here to Stay &#8211;\u00a0<\/a><strong>And other lessons from the European Parliament elections<\/strong> &#8211; <em>\u201cNow, there is no choice but to admit that the populist far right is becoming a permanent feature of European politics.\u201d &#8211; <\/em>By Ivan Krastev, May 28, 2019<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/maung-zarni.jpg\" ><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-120971\" src=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/maung-zarni-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a> A Buddhist humanist from Burma (Myanmar), Maung Zarni is a member of the <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/\" >TRANSCEND Network for Peace Development Environment<\/a><em>, former Visiting Lecturer with Harvard Medical School, specializing in racism and violence in Burma and Sri Lanka, and Non-resident Scholar in Genocide Studies with Documentation Center \u2013 Cambodia.\u00a0Zarni s the co-founder of <\/em><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/forsea.co\/\" >FORSEA<\/a><em>, a grass-roots organization of Southeast Asian human rights defenders, coordinator for Strategic Affairs for <\/em>Free Rohingya Coalition,<em> and an adviser to the <\/em>European Centre for the Study of Extremism<em>, Cambridge<strong>. <\/strong>Zarni holds a PhD (U Wisconsin at Madison) and a MA (U California), and has held various teaching, research and visiting fellowships at the universities in Asia, Europe and USA including Oxford, LSE, UCL Institute of Education, National-Louis, Malaya, and Brunei. He is the recipient of the &#8220;Cultivation of Harmony&#8221; award from the Parliament of the World&#8217;s Religions (2015). His analyses have appeared in leading newspapers including the <\/em>New York Times, The Guardian <em>and<\/em> the Times<em>. Among his academic publications on Rohingya genocide are <\/em>The Slow-Burning Genocide of Myanmar\u2019s Rohingyas<em> (Pacific Rim Law and Policy Journal), <\/em>An Evolution of Rohingya Persecution in Myanmar: From Strategic Embrace to Genocide<em>, (Middle East Institute, American University), and <\/em>Myanmar\u2019s State-directed Persecution of Rohingyas and Other Muslims<em> (Brown World Affairs Journal). He co-authored, with Natalie Brinham, <\/em>Essays on Myanmar Genocide.<\/p>\n<p><a target=\"_blank\" href=\"https:\/\/forsea.co\/democracy-in-france-2022-marie-gren\/?ct=t(EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_1_19_2022_11_25_COPY_266)&amp;mc_cid=27819f1834&amp;mc_eid=fde2049530\" >Go to Original \u2013 forsea.co<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>29 Apr 2022 &#8211; In the fascinating 60-minutes discussion, Professor Gren touched on various aspects of contemporary democracy in France, ranging from the sordid state of the Left and its \u201ccaviar socialists\u201d and the increasing acceptability and mainstreaming of Far Right ideologies which Le Pen personifies, to the economic hardships that inflict immense pains on the great majority of the French public.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":210671,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[40],"tags":[433,1675,260,109],"class_list":["post-210668","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-transcend-members","tag-europe","tag-france","tag-history","tag-politics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210668","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=210668"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210668\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/210671"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=210668"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=210668"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=210668"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}