{"id":301185,"date":"2025-08-18T12:00:15","date_gmt":"2025-08-18T11:00:15","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/?p=301185"},"modified":"2025-08-15T08:28:12","modified_gmt":"2025-08-15T07:28:12","slug":"two-indias-gandhiji-and-modern-india-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/2025\/08\/two-indias-gandhiji-and-modern-india-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Two Indias: Gandhiji and Modern India"},"content":{"rendered":"

Gandhi was killed not far from where we are right now by a Pune brahmin<\/em>, Godse, and I was that 17-year-old boy in Norway who cried when hearing the news.\u00a0 Something unheard of had happened.\u00a0 But I did not know why I cried, and wanted to know more.\u00a0 Who was Gandhi?\u00a0 So I became a Gandhi scholar, inspired, as assistant and co-author, by the late Arne N\u00e6ss’ seminal work, extracting from Gandhi’s works and words the political ethics of his action, as a norm-system.[i]<\/a><\/p>\n

To me the image of the India I love is the image of Gandhi.\u00a0 I know perfectly well that there are other Indias.\u00a0 And Ashis Nandy sensitized me to why the court proceedings against Godse were kept secret: because his arguments were, briefly put, that Gandhi stood in the way of a modern India, with industrialization, booming cities, growth, trade, a strong army, the whole package.\u00a0 Very different from Gandhi’s sarvodaya<\/em> villages, self-sufficient, linked by “oceanic circles”, focused on spiritual rather than material growth.\u00a0 In turn very similar to the buddhist image of the sangha<\/em>, confirming Gandhi’s idea that he may actually have been a buddhist; without any vertical ranking of castes.\u00a0 These last points, the link to buddhism and the rejection of caste, may have been on top of Godse’s motivation.<\/p>\n

That modern India was also Nehru’s India, with a socialist, LSE touch of Harold Laski to it.\u00a0 Nehru and Gandhi may have found some meeting points in theory and words, if not in reality, and certainly not in a Soviet reality very remote from Gandhi’s world.\u00a0 Gandhi was instrumentalized by Congress to get rid of Britons preaching against caste, and India became independent, with a disastrous partition mainly caused by Lord Mountbatten, free to enter modernity, and to keep caste. The Congress Party got the cake, and could eat it too.<\/p>\n

So I see two Indias, Gandhiji and modernity, well knowing there are more.\u00a0 Which one is the Self and which one the Counter Image is not for me to judge.\u00a0 Two Indian civilizations, with much clash and little dialogue, with dwarfs eliminating India’s greatest son.\u00a0 Some time ago we could find books on, and even by, Gandhi at the airports; today we find books on business administration.\u00a0 A non-dialogue of two civilizations within one country, here carried by a non-Indian.<\/p>\n

Millions were touched by the genius of the Gandhi modern India expelled, like traditional India once did to another genius, the Buddha.\u00a0 The image of India abroad is still largely shaped by Gandhi, a vaisya<\/em> prime minister’s son, a lawyer trained in England, struggling like many with the drives of sex and food, finding his brahmacharya<\/em>.\u00a0 Very Indian themes, these, as much or more Indian than the present americanized growth machine mainly for upper castes, with growing inequality and the suffering of the 1\/3 of the world’s starving who live in India, with massive suicides (14,000 caused by “micro-credit” in Andra this year), incarceration of Binayak Sen, with bad relations to all neighbors but linked to a falling global empire, Anglo-America, and a regional declining empire, Israel.<\/p>\n

The Indo-European class structure allocates to the brahmins<\/em> the cultural violence, to the kshatriyas<\/em> the direct violence, and to the vaisyas<\/em> the structural violence; unleashing them on common people; the direct violence by acts of commission; the structural violence churning out suffering upheld by acts of omission.\u00a0 Justified by cultural violence.\u00a0\u00a0 A tradition of direct violence + being high or low in a structural violence pyramid + deriving legitimacy from a divine mandate or whatever, predicts well the four most belligerent countries over the last one thousand years: USA, Israel, the Ottoman Empire (then devoured by the others) and the UK.\u00a0 Watch your friends, India; there could be much guilt by cooperation and association.<\/p>\n

Of course, Gandhiji will survive perverted Indian modernity.\u00a0 He stood for Gandhi’s Four: satyagraha-swaraj-swadeshi-sarvodaya<\/em>. They carry a complete approach to sustainable peace and development.<\/p>\n

Satyagraha<\/em>: holding on to the Satya=Truth-Love-God trinity, his unity-of-human beings.\u00a0 As fact, truth; as togetherness-compassion, love, and as embodying the divine.\u00a0 Ahimsa<\/em>, nonviolence, reflects this badly so Gandhi a little more than 100 years ago coined that new term.\u00a0 He drew on vasudaiva kuttumbakam<\/em>, the world is my family<\/em>, very Indian, but not practiced by the believers in 700,000 soldiers in Kashmir, police brutality, and in killing Naxalites with drones.<\/p>\n

Swaraj<\/em>: the Self of identity and Power-over-Self join in Self-Rule.\u00a0 Gandhi praised openness, yet not being blown off one’s feet. Be rooted, but deepen the rootedness.\u00a0 Develop your self, but be a spirit in command of ego, a concept beyond any independence ceremony with flags lowered and raised.\u00a0 Gandhi did not attend; he fought Lord Mountbatten-twisted partition with its devastating consequences.<\/p>\n

Swadeshi<\/em>: self-made, to be in command of meeting own needs for food, shelter, clothing.\u00a0 No to English textiles was Yes to khadi<\/em>. Gandhi, against Nehru, collected money not to harm Bombay merchants.<\/p>\n

Sarvodaya<\/em>: the uplift of the poor, inspired by Gandhi’s dictum, there is enough for everybody’s need, but not for everybody’s greed.<\/p>\n

Gandhiji for need, modernity for greed; Gandhi for local self-reliance, modernity for unlimited trade; Gandhi for building on own identity, modernity for north-americanization as neo-nirvana; Gandhi for nonviolent conflict resolution, modernity for police, military, war.<\/p>\n

India’s modernity may head for a crash landing, so quite a blessing to have Gandhiji on the reserve shelf.\u00a0 There is much space for both-and.\u00a0 But right now both Delhi and the Naxalites would be better off with Gandhi Four than with state and non-state terrorism. BRIC is growth; only, drop I, add T Turkey for good neighborship: BRCT<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Note:<\/strong><\/p>\n

[i]<\/a>.\u00a0 For my own version of that system please see the Appendix, taken from my <\/em>T<\/em>he Way is the Goal, Ahmdavad: Navajivan, 1995 (reprinted on the back of the cover-pages of <\/em>A Theory of Conflict TRANSCEND University Press, 2010).<\/em><\/p>\n

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Talk Given in New Delhi, 30 Dec 2010<\/em><\/p>\n

Originally published<\/a> by<\/em> TMS on <\/em>10 Jan 2011 – #146<\/em><\/p>\n

\"\"<\/a> Johan Galtung (24 Oct 1930 \u2013 17 Feb 2024), a professor of peace studies, dr hc mult, was the founder of <\/em>TRANSCEND International<\/a>, <\/em>TRANSCEND <\/a>Media Service<\/a>, and rector of <\/em>TRANSCEND Peace University<\/a>. He was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize numerous times and was awarded among others the 1987 Right Livelihood Award, known as the Alternative NPP.<\/em> Galtung\u00a0has mediated in\u00a0over 150 conflicts in more than 150 countries, and written more than 170 books on peace and related issues<\/em>, 96 as the sole author. More than 40 have been translated to other languages, including <\/em>50 Years-100 Peace and Conflict Perspectives<\/a> published by <\/em>TRANSCEND University Press<\/a>. His book, <\/em>Transcend and Transform<\/a>, was translated to 25 languages<\/em>. He has published more than 1700 articles\u00a0and book\u00a0chapters and over 500 Editorials for <\/em>TRANSCEND Media Service<\/a>. More<\/em> information about Prof. Galtung<\/em><\/a> and <\/em>all of his publications<\/em><\/a> can be found at <\/em>transcend.org\/galtung<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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