{"id":54350,"date":"2015-03-02T12:00:31","date_gmt":"2015-03-02T12:00:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/?p=54350"},"modified":"2015-05-05T21:26:02","modified_gmt":"2015-05-05T20:26:02","slug":"german-newspaper-bild-gets-inside-us-nato-nuland-planning-session","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.transcend.org\/tms\/2015\/03\/german-newspaper-bild-gets-inside-us-nato-nuland-planning-session\/","title":{"rendered":"German Newspaper BILD Gets inside US-NATO-Nuland Planning Session"},"content":{"rendered":"
\"General<\/a>

General Breedlove tells US diplomats and select members of Congress what Ukraine needs.<\/p><\/div>\n

The Bild headline:<\/p>\n

\u201cCold Feet\u201d \u201cBullshit,\u201d \u201cAngst\u201d<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

What US Politicians REALLY think about the Germans in the Ukraine Crisis.<\/em><\/p>\n

Feb 19, 2015 – <\/em>While a bloody war rages in eastern Ukraine, the next dangerous conflict is breaking out in the Security Conference, a diplomatic battle of nerves centered on the question whether the West ought to supply armaments to the regime in Kiev. The opponents are actually allies: the USA against Europe, \u00a0and Germany in particular.<\/p>\n

Behind the soundproof doors of the conference room in the Bayerischer Hof hotel, the Americans speak about Germans in rather derogatory terms.<\/p>\n

Friday [13 Feb 2015] evening a bit after 7 p.m. on the sixth floor of the luxury hotel, according to BILD\u2019s sources, American four-star generals, diplomats, and high-ranking US politicians held a frank discussion in a \u201cbriefing room,\u201d and held forth about the Germans.<\/p>\n

\u201cDefeatist,\u201d is what a US Senator called German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen, because she no longer believes in a Kiev victory. The phrase \u201cGerman defeatist,\u201d according to our information, was often heard in the room.<\/p>\n

Obama\u2019s top diplomat for Europe, Victoria Nuland, called the Chancellor\u2019s trip to Putin, \u201cMerkel\u2019s Moscow thing.\u201d Another US Foreign office type spoke of the Europeans\u2019 “Moscow bullshit.\u201d<\/p>\n

And US Senator John McCain talked himself into a rage: \u201cHistory shows us that dictators always take more, whenever you let them. They can\u2019t be brought back from their brutal behavior when you fly to Moscow to them, just like someone once flew to this city.\u201d<\/p>\n

Merkel\u2019s diplomatic initiative in the Ukraine crisis stands at the center of American anger. Reason: the Americans don\u2019t believe that Putin can\u2019t be made to back off without a massive push, and the Europeans have no wish to build up a greater push.<\/p>\n

\u201cThey\u2019re afraid of damage to their economy, counter-sanctions from Russia,\u201d said Nuland. Another US politician: \u201cIt\u2019s painful to see that our NATO partners are getting cold feet.\u201d<\/p>\n

Obama\u2019s close confidante Victoria Nuland is the one who set the tone for her American colleagues at the prelude to the evening: \u201cWe can fight against the Europeans, we can fight with rhetoric against them.\u201d<\/p>\n

Several US politicians appeared to have hesitations about weapons supply to Kiev. One asked whether it was only a tactic, a false promise to get the Europeans to put more pressure on Putin. \u201cNo, it\u2019s not a tactic to push the Europeans,\u201d answered Nuland dryly. “We\u2019re not going to sent any four divisions into Ukraine, as the Europeans fear. It\u2019s only a relatively moderate delivery of anti-tank weapons.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cBut what will we tell the Europeans if we really decide on delivering weapons,\u201d asked one Congressman. “What\u2019s our story then?\u201d<\/p>\n

NATO Commander General Philip Breedlove was there. He answered: “We\u2019re not on a footing to deliver so many weapons they could defeat Russia [!!! \u2014tr] That\u2019s not our goal. But we have to try to raise the battlefield cost for Putin, to slow down the whole problem, so sanctions and other measures can take hold.”<\/p>\n

Again top diplomat Nuland, who speaks fluent Russian and served as Dick Cheney\u2019s security advisor took it up: \u201cI\u2019d strongly urge you to use the phrase \u2018defensive systems\u2019 that we would deliver to oppose Putin\u2019s \u2018offensive systems.\u2019”<\/p>\n

General Breedlove clarified for the US politicians, what an actual arms delivery would look like. \u201cRussian artillery is by far what kills most Ukrainian soldiers, so a system is needed that can localize the source of fire and repress it. Ukrainian communications are disrupted or completely swamped, so they need uninterceptible communications gear. Then I won\u2019t talk about any anti-tank rockets, but we are seeing massive supply convoys from Russia into Ukraine. The Ukrainians need the capability to shut off this transport. And then I would add some small tactical drones.\u201d<\/p>\n

NB: These planned weapons and systems are so technically demanding that US soldiers would probably have to train the Ukrainian army. Thus the USA would be intervening with their own troops in the conflict.<\/p>\n

There hasn\u2019t been this much conflict between Europeans and Americans since the Munich Security conference of 2003, shortly before the beginning of the Iraq war. In the morning Chancellor Angela Merkel travels to Washington to US President Barak Obama. The two have much to discuss\u2026<\/p>\n

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Translated from German by Tom Winter.<\/em><\/p>\n

Translator’s note: This material is visible throughout the German press, and it all comes back to this article in Das Bild, and the source for this Bild article had to be German Intelligence. The German press is full of praise for their peace-making Chancellor, and apparently the Chancellery is committed to making Minsk II a success. Further, this item removes, and was doubtless intended to remove, any doubts about NATO being a US instrument. Also to be noted here is a complete zeroing out of the five or six million Russian-speaking inhabitants of Lugansk and Donetsk; they don’t exist, it’s just Russia.\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n

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